tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8864344470910760864.post1567041142154739983..comments2024-03-28T19:48:28.706-04:00Comments on The General Hospital Wub Tub: GH's Women: I Dream of Jason...kdmaskhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05308182064350109835noreply@blogger.comBlogger80125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8864344470910760864.post-47777913884831883682011-10-08T02:29:24.182-04:002011-10-08T02:29:24.182-04:00Wow, there is a lot of useful data above!Wow, there is a lot of useful data above!www.camobel.infohttp://www.camobel.infonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8864344470910760864.post-86848786934042181692011-08-16T15:11:15.203-04:002011-08-16T15:11:15.203-04:00I get the message. You want me gone because I spea...I get the message. You want me gone because I speak my mind. <br /><br />I will leave. So if you could remove me from all mailing lists I would appreciate that. <br /><br />I gave your site a chance. This site has a reputation for inaccuracies. If you go to SoapCentral, or Daytime Confidential, both of which I have been member of for over 5 years, there is alot of 'talk' about Wubs. <br />I personally never heard of you before I visited the other sites.<br /><br />Now I have something to add!!<br /><br />Love,<br />My2CentsAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05111596953664219935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8864344470910760864.post-56045422189380407352011-08-16T14:36:37.650-04:002011-08-16T14:36:37.650-04:00I love coming on here and reading KAREN's blog...I love coming on here and reading KAREN's blog and others comments and responses to her; it has been quite A FUN place for over a year now. But now, I have to skip the comments. It's becoming a battle ground.<br /><br />My2Cents2-<br />You almost seem to be commandeering the blog. I really don't want to come off RUDE but I thought I'd make a "peaceful" suggestions. <br /><br />Im very opinionated myself so I started my own blog. Why don't you do the same, start your own blog! <br /><br />It is free and easy. Go to google, create an email account and then start a FREE blog. Then you can VENT AWAY. Include tons of GENERAL HOSPITAL-soap opera metatags to draw readers to it, and have a blast.<br /><br />If this is considered offensive and deleted Karen, I understand.<br /><br />Love the WUB TUB!!SAWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8864344470910760864.post-72791547145413714812011-08-16T10:18:27.653-04:002011-08-16T10:18:27.653-04:00Watchintele....so glad to hear from you!!
I comple...Watchintele....so glad to hear from you!!<br />I completely agree with you about Sam. She is NOT qualified to make any health decisions regarding Jason. She should be included in decisions, but ultimately, it is Monica's decision. <br /><br />As far as his relationship with Monica. He never was really estranged from her like he was the other Q's. However, they were never close. After his first brain injury, he cut himself off from the Q's. He came around for Lila. <br />He loved Lila. <br />Monica and Jason shared very touching scenes throughout the years. There just wasn't enough of them!! <br />Hopefully that is about to change.<br />You could see that Jason was 'softening' in the past few months toward his family. He is beginning to feel his regrets. Probably thru Michael. <br />I think his dream will bring closure to his estrangement with his father and help resolve alot of issues. At least I hope!!!!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05111596953664219935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8864344470910760864.post-42024053342653648382011-08-16T10:10:32.381-04:002011-08-16T10:10:32.381-04:00My2Cents2, to clarify I don't want Sam to lose...My2Cents2, to clarify I don't want Sam to lose! Like you, I just don't feel that she is qualified to make any decisions regarding his medical care. I just find her too smug and a hypocrite when it comes to Jason and what's best for him.<br />And, also do not like the blatant propping of her character in this story at the expense of what is best for other characters.<br /><br /><br />Just wanted to ask a question, were Monica and Jason not on good terms?<br />When Jason asked the Q's to take in Michael after he awoke from his coma, I thought he and Monica had a very healthy conversation to clear the air??<br />Even after Michael was sent to prison, did they not still have a good conversation and there was no ill will?<br /><br />So why have Sam say they've been barely on speaking terms?<br /><br />Monica's absence was always explained as either she's gone on a medical conference or she was at a spa. Hence them not sharing any scenes or really speaking.Watchintelenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8864344470910760864.post-34679157874086093822011-08-13T11:58:48.079-04:002011-08-13T11:58:48.079-04:00Watchintele..Good Morning!!
I am not going tic f...Watchintele..Good Morning!! <br /><br />I am not going tic for tac anymore over Liz & Sam. <br />I feel about Liz how I do, and nothing and nobody can change my mind. I have explained many times that I was on the 'fence' with Sam.<br />So I am ending this debate. I don't want to waste another forum discussing a women who I wish were dead. (Liz) <br />No matter how many mistakes Sam & Liz BOTH have done in their past, I can't justify Liz playing G-D with someone's life like she is known for. (inserting a drug into Lucky, keeping Sio in the dark. Hurting Nik & Lucky by sleeping with Nik!) So So much more she has done. <br />***************<br />I didn't like seeing Monica cave like that either.. Very disapointed that she gave Sam the power. My reasons are different than yours. You want Sam to lose, I want the person who is most qualified to make decisions about Jason. That would be Monica & his Doctors. Not Sam. <br />***************<br />The reason Sam was the one to give Monica a photo of Jake instead of Liz, is because Liz is busy right now playing G-D. (You asked) <br />And NO, Sam is by far NO Lila. <br />Even more so NOT like Lila is Liz. <br />There was only one Lila....<br />**************<br />Of course that is how Jax came to Robin. Brenduh. Trying to forger Brenduh!!Thanks for the info.<br /><br />I am retaping Thursday & Fridays episodes. Thursday was so enjoyable, and Friday, I hate to say, I may have dozed off.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05111596953664219935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8864344470910760864.post-63856521205727710252011-08-13T11:24:53.986-04:002011-08-13T11:24:53.986-04:00My2Cents2, to answer your question about Jax and R...My2Cents2, to answer your question about Jax and Robin's friendship.<br /><br />They were introduced by Brenda. When Brenda was "married" to Jax. They became friends then.<br />Jax brought Robin back to town when Brenda had the break down due to Sonny leaving her at the alter.<br /><br />Since then they've had a bond.Watchintelenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8864344470910760864.post-17895794208818429662011-08-13T11:18:48.922-04:002011-08-13T11:18:48.922-04:00Also wanted to touch on the another subject of bla...Also wanted to touch on the another subject of blatant propping.<br /><br />Hope I don't spoil the show for you.<br />In yesterday's show, Monica tells Sam that she's the best person to make decisions for Jason as she knows him best, as Monica doesn't, and they are getting married. She's good for him.<br />I knew they would have Monica cave. Such BS!! Talk about propping.<br /><br />What irked me more was they had Sam give Jake's picture to Monica.<br />Why not allow Elizabeth give it? She was the mother of Monica's grandson. She was Emily's best friend. Allow them to have a bonding moment? To help each other? To grieve together? <br />They are taking moments that should be shared between other characters and giving them to Sam all to make her look sympathetic, kind, generous and the only person that should involved in every aspect of Jason's life.<br /><br />Even when Edward said that Sam was like Lila. Are you for real??<br />If anyone was like Lila in any way it was Robin. She called Jason on his BS. She tried to make him a better person. Advocated for him to spend time with the Q's. All the things Lila did for Edward.<br />Sam has never really advocated for the Q's. All she's ever done is placate Jason's habit to keep the Q's at arms length. And, when Jason or the family has threatened her relationship with Jason, in her mind no less, by reaching out to one another cuz God forbid he have a relationship with his family, she has whined about it.<br /><br />It's utter nonsense to constantly promote her character in every which way.Watchintelenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8864344470910760864.post-25434227704738605382011-08-13T11:18:17.309-04:002011-08-13T11:18:17.309-04:00Good morining My2Cents2,
kinda like the back &...Good morining My2Cents2,<br />kinda like the back & forth because it has remained civil.<br /><br />I know I shouldn't but I cannot resist.<br /><br />You said Sam owns up??<br />Really??<br /><br />I, however, do not see that at all.<br />Either she will play victim or will lay blame at someone else's feet.<br /><br />Examples:<br /><br />When she told Carly about Jake being Jason's son and Lucky found out.<br />She said that Carly attacked her verbally and that's why she said it to shut her up. Though now she regrets it, but she wanted Carly to stop.<br />You call that ownership?<br />She went there to cause trouble for Jason and Elizabeth, and to stick it to Carly. She also played victim and placed blame on Carly.<br /><br />When Jason asked her why she would tell Carly.<br />Explanation - Jason, cuz you hurt me. You had a kid with Elizabeth. And, now we are even cuz Carly will cause trouble for you.<br />Call that ownership?<br />She clearly placed blame on Jason and was vengeful, and played victim.<br /><br />When she tried to apologize to Alexis.<br />Explanation - You made me feel like trash and unworthy. I was made to feel like I didn't fit. I regret it though cuz Jason saw and I hurt him.<br />You call that ownership?<br />Clearly, placed blame on Alexis for her actions and only regretted it cuz Jason was hurt. Nothing really about hurting Alexis or her sisters. Again, victim.<br /><br />When she went to go to and talk to Jason after he went to prison for Alcazar's murder about the kidnapping.<br />Explanation - Jason I was wrong, but so were you for not telling me the truth, for having a kid with Elizabeth. So I froze and watched your son get kidnapped.<br />You call that ownership?<br />She admits her mistake, but again shifts blame on Jason. That it wouldn't have happened if you told me the truth.<br />Again she plays victim.<br /><br />When Jason confronted her about the park incident.<br />Explanation - I did you & Elizabeth a favour. Elizabeth saw how dangerous it is to be with Jason. Also, you had a kid with her and I can't have one cuz of you.<br />You call that ownership?<br />Again, victim. Places blame on others.<br /><br />When she had an affair with Sonny. She never owned it. She would shift blame onto Sonny and say he pursued me, Carly.<br />Again, victim and shifts blame.<br /><br />In what way has she owned anything that she's done wrong???<br />So now that they have her saying I made mistakes is still not ownership, only difference is she's with Jason, so no excuses are being heard. Another example of how she's written completely different when she's with Jason and without.<br /><br /><br />You also said Elizabeth doesn't own her mistakes.<br /><br />Examples:<br />After Lucky confronted her about the affair with Nikolas. All she has done is said I was wrong. I ruined us. And, now even in yesterday's episode she said I want to make up for everything I did to us. She wants to support him the way she didn't the first time around with his drug addiction.<br />She even apologized to Nikolas for hurting him. She did not blame him for the affair. She did not make an excuse for her role.<br />That's ownership.<br /><br />After the truth was told to Lucky about Jake's paternity. Elizabeth said to Jason she made this mess. She made him lie. She hurt both him and Lucky, the kids and even Sam.<br />That's ownership.<br /><br />She even took the blame for Jake's death. She went to Luke and blamed herself for what happened and absolved Luke of his part.<br /><br />The difference with the 2 is that Elizabeth doesn't play victim. She may rationalize at times by saying she had good intentions. Which is wrong. What's that saying, we pave the road to hell with good intentions?? But, she never excused her behaviour or that it was herself that made the mistake.<br /><br />Sam will always place blame on others for her mistakes. Play victim. Never takes ownership.<br />If you call saying I did that but this was the reason and it's not really my fault, that in my eyes is not ownership whatsoever.Watchintelenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8864344470910760864.post-47975466377858788842011-08-13T07:46:11.516-04:002011-08-13T07:46:11.516-04:00Sam's whole 'being' DOES revolve aroun...Sam's whole 'being' DOES revolve around Jason. And that, is what holds me back about the character. <br />Not so much her past. I like strong women. She doesn't represent that for me. Unless Jason is standing next to her. <br />I do know that alot of viewers see chemistry between Shawn & Carly. <br />Jason & Carly. <br />Mmmmm....I wonder what is in store?<br />Since Jason would never look at Carly like that, maybe Shawn will be her new bff?? <br /><br />I missed Diane & Alexis on Friday!! I was so counting on them!<br />See what happens when they give me a little of them? <br />I want MORE MORE MORE.<br /><br />I see they showed the MURDERER yesterday. With her 'needles' to cure Lucky. BELCH. Once I saw her reach for a needle FF....MURDERER.<br /><br />It is about to get ugly at Robin's house. That maniac Sonny. Why can't someone just shoot him and put us out of our misery?? LOVE the character as a rule, but not now. <br />I didn't know Jax & Robin were friends? Someone remind me of their past....<br /><br />NOT HAPPY with this 'farewell' ending for Jasper. LOVE him.. <br />He hasn't been Jasper Jax in awhile now. I miss that. I don't want a bad send off for him...and if what I am reading is true, he doesn't ride off in the same white horse he rode in.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05111596953664219935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8864344470910760864.post-72666216678708681102011-08-13T01:22:34.415-04:002011-08-13T01:22:34.415-04:00Shawn & Carly hot hot hot
Diane & Coleman ...Shawn & Carly hot hot hot<br />Diane & Coleman hot hot hot<br />Lucky & Liz dead dead horse!<br />Sonny Sonny Sonny crazy crazy crazy<br /><br />It was nice to see Johnny playing the piano today. I thought that was all gone. But what does Anthony want for it? There is no free lunch<br /><br />Are we sure that Jerry Jax hasn't had plastic surgery again and taken Jaz's place? He wasn't to bad today but he's been awful during the divorce. <br /><br />Olivia was sweet today with Carly. Made sure she ate and let her prattle on until Shawn got there. <br /><br />St. Liz was beautiful helping Lucky <br />Someone please give Matt a story not just tack him on to someone else's!wherewolfmomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09099238708428083487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8864344470910760864.post-1144610189553985842011-08-13T00:54:58.179-04:002011-08-13T00:54:58.179-04:00I have loved reading the discussion her concerning...I have loved reading the discussion her concerning Liz and Sam. I don't like Jason with Sam or with Liz. When Jason is with Sam, it is as if she becomes perfect and she is boring. Her whole being seems to revolve around him. Why not show her working more or with her sisters and Alexis? Liz and Jason just seem to have the same argument about his life being dangerous. She wants him but she wants to change him. If I was writing the show for me, I would pair Jason with Carly. However since that is not going to happen I value their friendship. Of course I am also digging Carly's interaction with Shawn. They are hot!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8864344470910760864.post-19204297828108993532011-08-12T20:01:44.290-04:002011-08-12T20:01:44.290-04:00Watchintele....I am so MAD!! I couldn't watch ...Watchintele....I am so MAD!! I couldn't watch my shows today, I have to wait until tonight! <br />I live in Wisconsin and the Packers went to Washington today to meet with Pres Obama. So we localy were interrupted. Its OK, I will watch later tonight and comment tomorrow. <br /><br />As far as Liz goes, I am no more open to listening to reason about her than you are Sam. IMO Liz has stepped over her boundaries way too much. She is as bad as Sam. The difference is, Sam can 'own up'. Liz can't. <br />AGAIN, I want to emphasis, I don't 'LOVE' Sam, nor do I hate her. <br />I hate the new personality she has adapted to lately, however, different writers.....We must go with the flow, in order to save our soaps or enjoy the last year. <br /><br />In reality there are few characters that I like as they are characters who are following a script. Ohh I enjoy watching Diane in action!! <br />Class act! Her and Alexis together are a bonus!<br />Seeing Monica back on screen is a dream. We will be seeing Alan soon. Maxie is adorable. If she could only lose Spinelli.<br /><br />I watch TV for entertainment. When it stops being entertaining, then I stop. If Liz or Spinelli make me sick to watch and listen to, I ff thru there scenes. <br /><br />I like Carly. I am not blind to what Carly is about. Nor do I approve of how she behaves most of the time. What I like about her, is in her role, she plays the role of a human person who I can relate to. Besides that, the women 'OWNS up' to what she is. Got respect that with her. Sometimes I see myself in her. Not good?? lolAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05111596953664219935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8864344470910760864.post-32181005887449098522011-08-12T19:32:59.232-04:002011-08-12T19:32:59.232-04:00My2Cents2, we have 2 different perspectives on the...My2Cents2, we have 2 different perspectives on the subject.<br /><br />You said that she has changed after her and Jason got engaged. You've kinda made my point for me.<br />I said she's written one way with Jason and the complete opposite without him. Hence the new personality. Why cannot she be written the way she is now when she's not with Jason??? That's what I've been saying all along about her and the writing for her character.<br />It's inconsistent!!! It reeks of agenda. Favourites are being played. Others are written out of context to suit the change in her and how they want us to view her.<br />Like I said, that's my opinion.<br />I'm open to change. Happy there is a new head writer. Hopefully he will restore this show to what is once was. How can you sit here and think that by passively accepting everything they write without respecting character history and show history is good for the longevity of this soap? We are where we are cuz they did not respect their viewers enough to realize they have long memories and they like consistency with stories and characters.<br /><br />As for Elizabeth, is there anything I can say that you will allow you to be open to another perspective of her character? You say that I'm not willing to see the whole picture regarding Sam, so after reading your comments of Liz, I'm pretty sure it's safe to say that your are not open to seeing the whole picture regarding Elizabeth??<br /><br />I've admitted that Elizabeth has made mistakes and will continue to make mistakes as they've been writing her that way for the past 3 years.<br />Presently, she did hurt Siobhan by not informing her immediately about Lucky. I'm sure she may have felt one it's not her place, and secondly even if she did tell Siobhan the minute she found out, do you honestly think Siobhan would listen to anything she would say??? The woman threw her son's death in her face. She thinks that she tried to kill her.<br /><br />As for Lucky, is she wrong to help him out? Yes and No.<br />Yes, because she wants to be there for him the way she wasn't the last time. She's trying to make up for it. Also, when it's someone we love, we tend to take risk to save them. For example, Elizabeth was not qualified to save Jake from the fire, she did it anyway.<br />Carly was not qualified to help treat Robin during the hostage crisis, she did it anyway. <br />Again, you are not open to looking from another perspective.<br /><br />Now, onto my No part. Should she have let Dante, and even Mac for that matter? Yes. Should she have asked Steven help her with Lucky? Probably.<br /><br />But as I stated above, she's trying to support Lucky and protect him. Whether it's her place or not, that's up for debate.<br /><br />When Lucky helped Elizabeth after she was raped, was he qualified?? NO. We help those we love.<br /><br />Is Sam qualified to help Jason with his work? No, but she does it anyway, and it to can cost him his life as you say Elizabeth can cost Lucky his.<br /><br />I've enjoyed the debate, but I think we have to agree to disagree.<br />You don't like Elizabeth for your reasons.<br />I've stated I cannot like Sam or support Sam for the inconsistent writing for her, how other characters are ruined, changed to make her look good, and cuz of back door politics.<br /><br />As for other on the other boards, there are many that would agree with my assessment of Sam as they would agree on yours. And, the same goes for Elizabeth.<br />I'm sure the Jasam fans think she's changed, and those that aren't will feel she hasn't been. There will also be those that think she's written this way cuz of Frons.<br />Liz and Liason fans will argue she's been ruined, and those that aren't will say she's like this.<br /><br />Agree to disagree. We all have our own opinions.Watchintelenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8864344470910760864.post-7029136690954362052011-08-12T15:31:22.560-04:002011-08-12T15:31:22.560-04:00Watchintele....I don't buy Sam's new perso...Watchintele....I don't buy Sam's new personality. I don't believe most do. Look at other forums, people are commenting on the change in her since her and Jason got engaged. <br />New writer on board. <br />Go with the changes....or FF thru the character's scenes if she bothers you. I know I dispise Liz, and I FF quite often as I don't want to see her face and that smug 'I know what is best' attitude. <br />Don't tell me she did what she thought was best!!!!! Or she didn't go out to hurt anyone intentionally! Wake up!! How do you give someone drugs when you don't know what he has taken to begin with? How do you not seek help from a professional? Please, she is not that professional. She is an RN. She is not licensed to give out meds. <br />What she did to Lucky was selfish, murderous, and NONE of her business!! Her 'decision' to not let HIS wife in on what was going on? How can you say she doesn't hurt people deliberately?? Do I need to make a list of all that she has hurt? <br />I am in the present. And presently she has hurt too many people. AGAIN. <br /><br />I don't want to sit here and dispute Sam vs Liz. I told you, I am on the fence with Sam. However the new head writer writes, I have to believe in it. <br />If we want the continuation of this great soap to continue on..we have to learn to accept the changes.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05111596953664219935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8864344470910760864.post-76576716290088288692011-08-12T15:17:26.896-04:002011-08-12T15:17:26.896-04:00Wolfie..how funny. That is what I wondered too, ho...Wolfie..how funny. That is what I wondered too, how did she get redressed and do her hair with one arm?? (a hole in the story) However I will let is slip if we can get more days like Thursday!<br /><br />LOVE LOVE your aka Brenda comment!! She sucks the air out of me and I am only a viewer!!!<br />Where is Claire? In the closet with Terrell? <br />And Lisa? Gone but not forgotten? <br /><br />Sam's head on Edwards shoulder brought tears to me! Why does it take tradgedies to bring people together?? Clearly Jason needs to reconnect to his family, and if Sam is that link, then so be it. <br /><br />Sonny..BELCH. Best part of him yesterday was when Dante spoke the truth to him. Not a Dante fan, however, KUDOS to him yesterday. <br /><br />Don't get me started on Diane/Coleman/Alexis. How PRICELESS were those scenes yesterday? Coleman taking his pants off as Mac walks in...lol!! <br />And Diane!! Her bloomies are quite fashionable!! <br /><br />Like I stated earlier in a post...Thursday's episode was PERFECT entertainment!!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05111596953664219935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8864344470910760864.post-15663531440450536272011-08-12T14:16:57.453-04:002011-08-12T14:16:57.453-04:00You asked how is it that I don't see Liz going...You asked how is it that I don't see Liz going around deliberately hurting people? Well, she hasn't purposely gone out to hurt someone. Has she hurt people? Ofcourse! Were her intentions good when she ended up hurting someone? Yes, I believe they were. I'm sure that is upto debate.<br />Will she hurt someone in the future? I'm sure she will.<br />If we look at the now and present, we all see Elizabeth in a bad light. They've been writing her that way for the past 3 yrs. How is she to learn or grow if they do not allow it?<br />Are we to believe all that will change as soon as she and Lucky are reunited? Yes we are, as that is what they want us to believe.<br />Presently, Elizabeth is the heel and Sam is the herione. They've done a complete 180 with their characters. They've deviated so far from who they are, that these characters lack consistancy.<br />Elizabeth would not do what's she's done if they had written her as they always did.<br /><br /><br />As for now, ofcourse Elizabeth is the heel. That's how the writers wanted to write her.<br />Sam is the herione at the moment cuz she's with Jason.<br />All that may change if the storyline changes.<br /><br />I've tried to be open to Sam's character, but I dunno what to make of her??<br />It's clear that she's a favourite of Frons and he doesn't want her to be thrown in the mud.<br /><br />When Jason was with Sam the first time around and Courtney was still in the picture, Courtney was written as the heel and Sam the herione. All so the viewers would back his couple.<br />Now that Sam is again with Jason, Elizabeth has become the heel and Sam again is the herione that can do no wrong. Frons wants us to forget about Liason as he wanted us to forget Journey.<br />The worst thing that happened to this show is havin Frons, Phelps and Guza at the helm. They will not allow for character driven stories, instead they flock towards agendas of their own and stunts/events to dictate storylines.<br /><br />I was not a fan of Carly's but I'm still open to liking her at times.<br />Cuz at the end of the day Carly will not be drastically changed for her to be likeable. Either you do or don't.<br />As for Sam, her character is dictated by storyline/Jasam pairing. When's she with him, she's one person and not she's the total opposite.<br />We can have many faces to us, but some things will remain. That is not the case with Sam.<br />Other characters are written out of character to accomodate her and to make her more rootable.<br />Some characters are thrown under the bus as a result. They are made to do things that they would never do.<br />Agenda is written all over it.Watchintelenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8864344470910760864.post-90223333631570321382011-08-12T14:16:13.102-04:002011-08-12T14:16:13.102-04:00If you make changes to a character, take the time ...If you make changes to a character, take the time to do so. And, do not make them so drastic that they are the polar opposite of how they were only a few short days/wks earlier.<br /><br />Even Jason, when he was changed from Jason Quartermaine to Jason Morgan, there were still a lot of similarities between the 2. For instance, protective of his family, kind, compassionate, honest.<br />Differences<br />Jason Q, was more friendly, obviously smarter, cared about right and wrong.<br />Jason M, was more cold, less sociable, quiet.<br /><br />And, if you are going to change a character based on their relationship with someone or change the dynamic of a relationship be naturing and take your time.<br />Sam and Alexis could not stand each other. Then they found out that they were daughter and mother respectively. Did they all of sudden love each other? NO!!!<br />It took time, and only now have they formed a bond. Alexis did not forgive Sam that easily for sleeping with Ric, as Sam didn't forgive Alexis in her part with Sam losing her baby.<br />Gradual transition in the writing.<br /><br />Jason and Sam couldn't stand one another, and the next minute they were together.<br />Jason was unable to forgive Robin for a very long time for telling the truth about Michael who is not his child biologically, but he was able to forgive Sam for endangering his son, threatening Jake's mother and brother? We are supposed to buy that?<br />And, Robin helped him through the roughest time. She was his first love, and as they say, first love's cut the deepest.<br /><br />It's all consistancy, and the lack thereof where Sam is concerned. That is why I cannot find her character likeable, cuz I don't know who she is. Is she a con artist, liar, schemer and victim? Or kind, compassionate, wise, bff? This totally depends on her relationship status with Jason.Watchintelenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8864344470910760864.post-87313470509141349252011-08-12T14:11:42.478-04:002011-08-12T14:11:42.478-04:00My2Cents2 to answer your comments.
My dislike for ...My2Cents2 to answer your comments.<br />My dislike for Sam stems from the writing of this character development and really the lack there of. Also, I dislike this character as she is written for in a positive light due to agenda and backstage politics.<br />That is my personal opinion.<br /><br />When she was introduced, like I said she was a schemer, con artist and liar. All of a sudden, like overnight, as soon as she was paired with Jason she was no longer any of those. As you pointed out, she sat on a couch, and looked like an idiot cuz all she did was cater to Jason's life. So in essence, there was no character growth. So how could she be able to do anything negative? Her growth to not being a schemer, liar and con artist was non-existent. It was like one day she was and the next she wasn't. No consistancy with this character. That is my point. I cannot like a character good or bad, if there is no gradual growth/change.<br />One can argue that her change from one to the other coincides with Jasam.<br /><br />Now, when she was no longer with Jason, all of a sudden she reverted back to her old ways. Things that define us just don't go away and all of sudden appear again.<br />And, now that she's back with Jason, once again we have her not being a liar, schemer and con artist, instead we are supposed to buy into her being a kind, friendly, and wise person.<br /><br />Allow me to compare and contrast with other characters.<br /><br />Sonny: Introduced as a self-centered, arrogant, hot headed, ruthless person, with the capability to be kind and generous. Even now, after almost 18 years, Sonny is relatively the same person. There have been times where they have diverted away from some of these, but they were never changed. He has been depicted as all these things. He know it's Sonny.<br /><br />Luke: Gambler, drinker, adventurous, quick-witted, schemer, selfish. To this day, in essence Luke has remained all of these things.<br /><br />Carly: Selfish, strong, needy, liar, fighter, compassionate. Since the day she's been introduced, and throughout all of her pairings, Carly has been consistently all of these.<br /><br />Robin: Intelligent, overacheiver, perfectionist, kind, caring, honest.<br />She's been on this show for 20+ yrs now. We've seen her grow up. And, she has always shown consistency.<br /><br />Jason: Honest, kind, compassionate, cold, blunt, hates liars/people that hurt his family.<br />He's always been these things. All of sudden, he goes against this to be with Sam??<br /><br />They wanted Jasam back, and they had to change his character to get back with her, and for us to find Sam more likeable we are supposed to buy that she is kind, caring, wise, everyones' bff, and not a liar, schemer and victim, etc.<br />No consistency.Watchintelenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8864344470910760864.post-67884622222448663942011-08-12T14:07:36.162-04:002011-08-12T14:07:36.162-04:00Just call me wolfie...I loved yesterdays episode. ...Just call me wolfie...I loved yesterdays episode. Carly's almost mistake not listening to Shawn but he had a PTSD episode and couldn't rescue Joss. They were both wrong canceling each other out. If Shawn had to unzip her dress how did she get those jeans on? <br /><br />I think we got the message. Sonny is gangsta. Someone please start force feeding meds. He could use just a bit of a dark but not homicidal. Recovery from she who sucks all life from the room aka Brenda is a slow process. I think he could use a dose of Clair, she's not a forever girl but someone to have fun with, a distraction. <br /><br />I loved Monica, Sam and Edward coming together at the end. Sam's head on Edward's shoulder was very sweet. <br /><br />Coleman, Diane & Alexis - strip pool who could ask for anything more. Then Mac walks in just as Alexis is jumping up and down for Coleman to take it off take it off. That's the more we could ask for. The only thing better was finding out what kind of unmentionables Diane wears.wherewolfmomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09099238708428083487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8864344470910760864.post-57470411557084228312011-08-12T07:54:17.144-04:002011-08-12T07:54:17.144-04:00Watchintele.....
After reading your comments about...Watchintele.....<br />After reading your comments about Sam, it is a mute discussion since your hatred for her is so overwhelming..you aren't seeing the whole picture. <br />You say Sam has no 'qualms' about hurting people to get what she wants. How is Liz different? Please explain. <br />If Jason tossed Sam to the curb would she revert to the hustler she once was?? Perhaps. However until the writers take us there, we have to base her on what we are seeing. Apparently there are many faces to Sam McCall!! However, there are alot of faces to many characters on the show, even Liz.<br />I have explained to you that I am 'on the fence' with Sam. So for me this isn't a tic for tac between these women, but rather truth vs truth. <br /><br />I am not a brain surgeon. So I don't know what Jason's brain is capable or incapable of doing. <br />Even if I were a brain surgeon, the brain is very much a mystery, how anyone can assess what the brain is capable or not capable of doing is strickly speculation. <br /><br />I personally am looking at the present, not the past. (Somewhat) So when I look at Liz, I see what she is doing now that is so terribly wrong. I am not thinking about all her past mistakes,I am focused on the present. As I am with most all the characters on the show.<br /><br />I think we can agree, some characters grow and some stay the same. Either way,I take away from what is being shown to me at the time.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05111596953664219935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8864344470910760864.post-24498222117099077542011-08-12T07:36:45.492-04:002011-08-12T07:36:45.492-04:00Warewolf....What mistake did Carly try to cover up...Warewolf....What mistake did Carly try to cover up?? About her regret with running to Jason? <br /><br />As far as these women who didn't know Jason before his head injury, from what SB stated in his interview, he plays the roles according to these women's lives and how his life would have been. <br />He did slip in the interview about SD return. :( <br /><br />What is with Dante?? Is he officially the new lurker at GH? <br />He seems to be everywhere for everyone.. First he helps Liz with Lucky, then he is at the hospital lurking, then Carlys, now the jet with Sonny. He isn't very strong for a cop...a drug addict knocked him out as well as Sonny yesterday!<br />Speaking of Sonny, I usually LOVE his character. Let's just say yesterday I felt like I needed a shower after scene with him. <br /><br />Maybe I enjoyed yesterday's show because there was NO Liz or Spinelli?? <br /><br />I thought yesterday's episode was simply one of the bests. <br />You can't take away from Diane & Alexis and Coleman taking their clothes off. Did you see Diane in her underwear clothes?? OMG!! <br />Diane is going to hook up with Coleman..you just watch!!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05111596953664219935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8864344470910760864.post-11149167751309203732011-08-11T22:08:43.600-04:002011-08-11T22:08:43.600-04:00My2Cents2, I said Sam was introduced as a con arti...My2Cents2, I said Sam was introduced as a con artist, schemer, made no qualms about hurting people to get what she wanted.<br />Then she was paired with Jason, and all of sudden we saw someone who was excepted. Her misdeeds were ignored.<br />Then when she lost Jason, her true nature was displayed again.<br />Now that she is again with Jason, we are supposed to ignore who she was??<br />My point is, when she's not with Jason, she's a character with flaws and penchant to scheme, hurt and lie. There is potential with her. When paired with Jason, she's a shell of her character and is depicted as a can do no wrong person. So in that sense, she has been portrayed as one and then the other depending on her relationship status with Jason.<br />So there can be a correlation between how she's written depending on her pairing. And, those that were written one way were indeed thrown under the bus, Courtney and Elizabeth to draw attention away from Sam's sudden change from being immoral, bad, etc. in one fell swoop to being good, moral and wise, etc.<br /><br />How can you say that she's shown character growth on the one hand, if you've said that she's been written as an idiot for sitting on Jason's couch, agreeing with what he does and says? If you ask me, she has regressed back to who she was when they were paired the first time around which was only to white wash all her misdeeds after her introduction to the canvas.<br /><br />Also, if Sam has been sitting on couch and showing character growth, what have they done with Elizabeth?<br />Have her revert back to Lucky again after they split her and Jason. Cheat on him with his brother. Which she would never have done. Remember when Lucky "died", Nikolas wanted a relationship with her, and she couldn't as it was insulting to Lucky??<br />Even Tyler Christopher said himself it was out of character for both of them to do that.<br />Agenda is written all over that when the actor himself says it. His character was ruined too.<br />This was all to make Elizabeth look bad and even the playing field in regards to her and Sam, as they did with Elizabeth and Carly.<br /><br /><br />As for Jason, out of all the characters on this show, he's the one that you could expect not to change so much cuz of his brain damage. Remember, he suffered damage to his frontal lobe causing severe personality shift thus limiting his potential to change as a person as our frontal lobe is what controls behaviour and higher thinking.<br />So when I said, Jason would not forgive, he's very incapable to do so. He mimics behaviour as opposed to learning behaviour. Cuz of the brain damage, he's unable to learn behaviour to a vast extent. So for him to not forgive those as I stated before for hurting people he loved, as protective instincts are very primal and primary behaviour and hard to change, one could say that him forgiving Sam is out of character for him cuz he doesn't know how to deviate from that basic instinct. It requires higher thinking which he does not really have. Thus, his inability to understand people and why he had so much trouble with the Q's and them hurting one another and lying.<br /><br />Elizabeth is being written as Lucky's saviour at this point, cuz they want us to root for them.<br />And, I totally agree, she will never be happy with Lucky cuz he sees her a certain way, which she is not. <br /><br /><br />Wherewolfmom, I think the reason why Elizabeth is doing what she's doing now has more to do with not supporting Lucky the first go around with his drug addiction. She wants to believe in him.<br />Is it a mistake? Yes. Should she protect him? No. Should she allow Dante to get Lucky help? Ofcoure.Watchintelenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8864344470910760864.post-11795405539019737712011-08-11T20:39:23.264-04:002011-08-11T20:39:23.264-04:00Did you see it ... did you.. Carly almost admitted...Did you see it ... did you.. Carly almost admitted a mistake today, almost. But then she realized it wasn't a real mistake. She just didn't listen to someone and she always does that so lucky for her she didn't really apologize.<br /><br />Not to beat a dead horse but back to Liz ;-p <br /><br />I will say that some of my problem with Liz is because of the actress. RH plays to Liz's weaknesses every time. Always whining. Even trying to help Lucky with the drug sting. Which she totally screws up [writers]. She whines to Dante about Lucky's career. I don't think that's what he was thinking as he picked himself up off the gutter.<br /> <br />"Oh Dante. what about Lucky's career?" "you don't really believe Lucky was forced to get high." That's what makes Liz so unbelievable to me. Co-dependency R' Us. Liz & Lucky co-dependency perfection. I know she just lost Jakey and I should cut her some slack but sometimes I just can't. I mean I'm physically unable to because I'm to busy throwing up in my MOUTH when she is on SCREEN. <br /><br />Lucky knocked Dante out when his back was turned and Liz is worried about the career. I'm thinking we've passed career and gone straight to shot to hell. What is she thinking? I'm glad she figured out where that 'poor thang' wandered off to before he could really hurt his self. Fall off the docks or try to operate heavy machinery. A doped out, barefoot, drooling cop wandering around PC. That's a real career booster. He and Mac can have a drink at Coleman's.<br /><br /><br />I'm so glad to have this fantasy to write about. On TV right now is a documentary about the massacre in Norway. That's reality x10. This man is a sick terrorist and I who hate the FL death penalty wish he could die painfully in a Norway jail. He is not a psycho or sociopath, he wanted to kill these young people because they had different political beliefs then him. He believed their Politics would destroy Norway and eventually Europe. Shitwherewolfmomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09099238708428083487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8864344470910760864.post-77546983434523015232011-08-11T20:20:22.516-04:002011-08-11T20:20:22.516-04:00ICAM w/ Whatchintele's assessment of Elizabeth...ICAM w/ Whatchintele's assessment of Elizabeth's OOC "mistakes", the last couple years. That nonsense had agenda written all over it. Now that Rebecca Herbst is here to stay, I hope they can once again get back to who her character really is, and leave the backstage politics out of it!Melnoreply@blogger.com